Maximizing Google Ads Potential for B2B ManufacturersMaximizing Google Ads Potential for B2B Manufacturers

Maximizing Google Ads Potential for B2B Manufacturers Transcript:

Announcer: You’re listening to The Kula Ring, a podcast made for manufacturing marketers. Here are Carman Pirie and Jeff White. 

Jeff White: Welcome to The Kula Ring, a podcast for manufacturing marketers brought to you by Kula Partners. My name is Jeff White and joining me today is Carman Pirie. Carman, how you doing, sir? 

Carman Pirie: All is well. All is well in my world. You?

Jeff White: Oh, fantastic. Bit of a summer break for the podcast, you know? Replayed some favorite hits. 

Carman Pirie: Yeah. Yeah. You know, I kind of… In addition to enjoying a break, I like the opportunity to kind of shine a spotlight on some of the greatest hits episodes, if you will, over the past year or so. It’s always nice to resurface some of that thinking and frankly I really enjoy going back through the episodes, as well. 

Jeff White: Yeah. Absolutely. And other kind of podcast-related news, we’re now publishing the episodes to YouTube, as well, which we were not doing before, so if that’s your preferred podcast listening platform, you’ll be able to find The Kula Ring there from now on.

Carman Pirie: Indeed. 

Jeff White: That’s all the podcast news, though. 

Carman Pirie: Yeah. I think we have a guest. 

Jeff White: We do. We do. And a phenomenal guest she is, too. 

Carman Pirie: And a familiar voice to Kula Ring listeners and the first voice, I believe, that you hear every episode. 

Jeff White: That’s right. Yeah, that’s right. Still using Floyd’s fantastic intro and outro. 

Carman Pirie: Exactly. Well, without further ado. 

Jeff White: Yeah, so joining us today is Floyd Blaikie. Floyd is the strategy director here at Kula Partners. Welcome back to The Kula Ring, Floyd. 

Floyd Blaikie: Thank you so much. Although, when I introduce myself professionally, I don’t say strategy director at Kula Partners. I say that I’m the announcer voice for The Kula Ring. That’s really the highlight of my resume today. 

Carman Pirie: The voice of The Kula Ring. Kind of like the people who are like the official voice of the Chicago Cubs or whatever, like it’s a real thing. 

Floyd Blaikie: Yeah. 

Carman Pirie: Yeah. I mean, this is slightly maybe less significant than being the official voice of the Chicago Cubs. 

Jeff White: Not according to my mom. She loves the show. 

Floyd Blaikie: I’m sure my mom would agree. Yeah. Nice to be back. Thanks so much for inviting me. 

Carman Pirie: Look, it’s always a pleasure, and I think… Look, I should let our listeners know this is what we’re up to. Floyd has been working over the past little while on revamping our internal curriculum with respect to paid search, and we’ve had an awful lot of success in helping clients navigate paid search over the years, and that kind of playbook has certainly evolved over time, and we thought this was a real kind of significant updating to the thinking, and I think in some ways the best consolidation yet of how we think about paid search for manufacturers. 

So, that’s why we wanted to have Floyd on the show today, to really take our listeners through it and have them kind of begin to understand what are some of the different challenges that surface when it comes to paid search for manufacturers that maybe doesn’t exist with paid search elsewhere. Did I do a decent job of teeing that up, Jeff?

Jeff White: Oh, I think that’s great, and I think it’s fair to say that if you let it, Google will try and direct you to a place that is not necessarily going to guarantee anybody’s success except their own, so…

Carman Pirie: Yeah. I mean, we don’t want to throw the poor folks at Google under the bus here too hard or anything, but I think it is fair to say that you’re quite right. In fact, one manufacturer stands out in my mind as having wasted about a million dollars annually in paid search spend because they basically did a set it and forget it on a very, very, very big profile. So, and to your point, I’m sure the folks at Google were happy to see that happen. I mean, kind of a little million dollar donation’s not so bad. 

Jeff White: Yeah. But Floyd, you’ve come up with a better way. 

Floyd Blaikie: Look, Google will happily accept your donations in any amount for any amount of time. But yeah, Carman’s right. We’ve been spending a lot of time updating our Google ads curriculum. And you know, there’s a lot of how to use Google ads content out there, a lot of educational resources that you can find ranging from beginner level to advanced, and I’ve looked at most of them, and the reason that we have maintained this curriculum internally is because basically none of it is about niche B2B. There’s a lot of B2C content, of course. That’s the kind of target that Google ads as a platform was really built for. 

And when you do find B2B Google ads educational content, it’s really about more short cycle SaaS companies and other places where you have much shorter, less complex sales processes, and they can often get you into their marketing and sales universe pretty early in that journey with something like a freemium software approach. There’s really not a lot of freemium offers if you’re selling million dollar pieces of equipment, so those kinds of tactics just don’t work for B2B manufacturers. 

That’s kind of why we do this in house. 

Carman Pirie: Floyd, would you say that it’s… I mean, I’m kind of answering my own question maybe, but it’s like… Because these are somewhat two and the same. They go hand in hand. But I just wonder, is it the nicheness, if you will, of B2B manufacturing and kind of many of those markets, is that what drives the differences? Or is it length of sales cycle, primarily? 

Floyd Blaikie: It’s a little bit of both and that comes to life in a couple of different areas. So, when we’re talking about really niche industries or niche categories, it can be difficult to find the right keywords to target, and that’s where the real difference comes into play when you’re talking about PPC for B2B manufacturers. But the length and complexity of the sales cycle is really the main driver of that difference, and like I said, Google ads is really built for B2C. It put the ability to advertise and pay to capture search in the hands of marketers at any size of business. But most of those marketers are selling things that you can buy really quickly, so like a $5 widget, a $20 product, something where becoming aware of it and then buying it can happen in the same hour or even the same minute. 

So, all of the tactics and strategic kind of approaches to Google ads that you can learn are really about how do you get from that first interaction with your brand to a purchase, or some other kind of really high value conversion, in as little time as possible, and how can you optimize for that? And that’s just not going to really happen for B2B manufacturers. The sales process is a lot longer. We’re talking about multiple people on the buying committee that need to be marketed to and sold to. And you just don’t see a single interaction really capturing that. And if you try to optimize your account toward that, you’re gonna get a lot of things wrong. 

Carman Pirie: So, you’re basically saying if I’m understanding correctly that there’s a significant gap between when awareness takes place and when action takes place. 

Floyd Blaikie: That’s exactly right. The B2B awareness-action gap, recently written an article about this, and that’s just really referring to the length of time it takes between becoming aware of your product or solution and actually doing something about it. So, even if you think about a big B2C purchase, say you go to buy a car. That’s one of the bigger purchases someone’s gonna make in their lifetime. That might take a couple of weeks. You might consult your spouse about it. Maybe you don’t. So, it’s a pretty small buying committee. And you know, compared to the buying journey for B2B, it’s kind of more of a buying teleportation experience. 

So, when you’re thinking about capturing awareness level search for B2B, a lot of people treat conversions as the ultimate goal, and often in ads it should be, and they see not a lot happening after they tend to capture some search that might reflect where someone is when they’re earlier in that buying journey. And then they think ads doesn’t work, so that’s certainly one large stumbling block that we see in B2B manufacturing Google ads programs. 

Jeff White: But it’s not true that… I mean, I guess the thing is, and that’s what this episode is about, is what your curriculum is about, is that it is possible to use the platform in these highly complex, highly lengthy sales cycles. You know, but you’re right, the number of times that someone has come to us and said, “We tried. We tried PPC and it was just throwing money away. It doesn’t work for us.” And I think it’s fair to say that that’s probably not true for almost all. 

Carman Pirie: Yeah. It’s almost never the case. But I just want to make sure that I understand Floyd’s specific guidance here on this awareness-action gap. So, is it just basically to restructure the campaigns that convert so that they’re not hinging off of conversion, essentially, on those awareness-based keywords? 

Floyd Blaikie: Sometimes. So, the more complicated answer to that is that if you want to be good at Google ads as a B2B manufacturer, you need to really understand your own buying journey even before you necessarily understand all of the complexities and technical parts of Google ads. That’s where we see people fall down. When we’ve talked to manufacturers who’ve tried Google ads and it just hasn’t worked for them, it’s usually because they’re kind of trying to shoehorn intent or shoehorn certain actions into earlier stages of the buying journey. So, for some awareness terms are going to work, and for some they’re not. An example of a place where I see a lot of manufacturers struggle with awareness search is when they’re trying to invent a problem that nobody is searching for. 

So, you know, if you’re an innovator in the B2B space and niche B2B, you’re usually not solving a brand new problem. There just aren’t that many problems out there to solve. Certainly, things… We’ve seen a lot of advancements in automation and AI and a lot of new areas of awareness search are coming out of that, but if you’re in manufacturing, you’re probably solving some really old problems, but maybe you’re doing it in a really new and innovative way, or maybe you’re solving multiple problems at once. Think about… I mean, this is a little outside of B2B manufacturing, more on the software side, but think about ERPs that replace a number of fragmented software systems, like a warehouse management software, accounting software, and things like that. That’s solving a bunch of different problems in a new way.

But people who aren’t aware of your solution that might be new, or might be more comprehensive, they’re not searching for phrases that describe your solution. They’re searching for answers to their original problem. So, an example I like to give is the Swiss Army Knife. Pretend you invented the Swiss Army Knife. The problem that you’re solving is that it’s really hard to carry all the things that a Swiss Army Knife includes in your pocket, and you might need any of those things at any given time. But if nobody knows what a multitool is, if you’re the first one coming to market with that, then nobody’s gonna be searching for multitool. They’re gonna be searching for solutions to their individual problems. 

So, that’s where a lot of this awareness search kind of falls into that awareness-action gap. People are just not searching the right terms to describe someone’s new or advanced solution or offering. And then they think that search doesn’t work because people aren’t searching for the things that describe them, which is certainly not the case if you know how to target that. But most people are better off just targeting much more high intent terms that are more associated with solution awareness, product awareness, or even evaluation of your offering. 

Carman Pirie: Okay. Well, look. Let’s unpack that a little bit further. So, you’re saying the answer to addressing the awareness-action gap is to, first thing’s first, let’s not focus on the awareness side of this journey. Let’s look at other aspects of the journey where people are already solution aware. So, talk to me about how that impacts your keyword selection and kind of that first thing’s first approach, as it were. 

Floyd Blaikie: Yeah. You should always start… I mean, in 99.9% of cases, start with really high intent keywords that describe what you do in kind of familiar language to your prospect base. And that’s where you can do things like focus on conversions and get people taking actions really quickly. That’s usually starting closest to the money. You’ve got brand search. That’s really important. Phrases that are describing exactly what it is you do using exact or phrase match types. And that’s gonna be where you see the needle move the most. 

And then you can kind of build out into more awareness focused search. 

Carman Pirie: All right, then tell me about that build out. 

Floyd Blaikie: So, there’s a couple of things that you can do. Increased specificity is usually kind of correlated with increased intent, so if you can think about what are the things that people… What are the questions that people might have when they’re looking for a solution like yours? And then see how specific you can get with those types of searches. So, let’s do an example. If I was searching for a new pair of athletic shoes, I might search for something really specific like women’s pink lifting shoes. That might be something that I’ve actually searched for and purchased. The more specificity you get around a product or solution, I think the more opportunity you have in terms of awareness search. Something that isn’t a branded term describing what you do. 

One place you maybe shouldn’t look for this type of opportunity is in industry-modified keywords. That is something that we also see quite often. People are really eager to do really specific industry search terms and send them to industry focused pages. And that doesn’t work very often. People tend to assume that increased industry specificity equals kind of increased awareness or increased opportunity to create awareness. I can’t think of someone who is in a role where they’ve been making these kinds of purchase decisions sitting down and making a search for automation sensors for food and beverage industry. You don’t get to that level of authority and decision making without already kind of knowing what the answer is to your problem. And we just don’t see a lot of those search terms being modified with industry terms. 

Carman Pirie: So, if I’m hearing you correctly on that, is it that they’re not being modified by industry terms in that kind of, if you will, the easy way, like food and beverage industry? But it is being modified by other, more specific things that may well be only food and beverage related? But that’s kind of peeling the onion just a little bit further, so I think what you’re telling us is you need to work a little harder than just replicating the industry list on your website and modifying terms with that and going from there. 

Floyd Blaikie: Yeah. That’s exactly right. If you can, if you’ve got the data infrastructure to be doing customer journey lifecycle analysis, and you can map certain actions on your site to different stages in that customer journey, that can be a really good place to start. Another thing that we like to do when we’re working with manufacturers for the first time is just see what kind of organic search terms are bringing people to the site. And often they don’t tend to align with kind of the “obvious” keywords that we see a lot of manufacturers go after. Things that are industry modified, things that are describing their solution if they solve problems in an innovative way, those just aren’t the keywords that tend to be bringing folks to the site and driving action on the site. 

So, that’s usually the first big wake-up call when we start to do keyword research. 

Jeff White: When you’re looking at that kind of thing, because of course, as all marketers know, we don’t have access to the keyword visibility the way that we used to before everything went under SSL. How are you doing that research to find those rather specific terms? 

Floyd Blaikie: Yeah. There is an awful lot we can’t see, which… depending on whether you’re on the marketing side or the consumer side is either a good or a bad thing. But you know, the trend is definitely toward anonymous browsing by default and you kind of have to opt-in now to give any of your data away. So, there are lots of ways around this. You know, if you’ve got a good site structure, if you’ve got pages that are specifically about one thing and they’re well organized, you can kind of map what’s going on on those pages to what the keywords likely are that are bringing people in, so that’s one way to do it. 

You can simply Google yourself and see what terms you’re coming up for. There’s also ways to do competitive research around what terms are bringing people to your direct competitors’ sites. So, sometimes you have to use a little bit of ingenuity and interpreting of what site behavior might mean in relation to keywords and where folks are on a customer journey. But if you’re familiar with these tools and you’re familiar with how the B2B buying cycle tends to work, there are still lots of ways to figure that out. 

Carman Pirie: We’d be remiss not to mention tools like Semrush and things of that nature, as well, of course. 

Floyd Blaikie: Yeah. Exactly. It’s a great place to start. 

Carman Pirie: I’d like to talk about the attribution challenge a bit further when you think about these very long cycles. I’m always… I find it funny when you think about an 18-month or 24-month long sales cycle, and we know that the average CMO tenure is a year, so it’s just like… Man, those bottom of funnel measures are hard to get a promotion with, right? When you’re having to wait 24 months. But these long sales cycles do change how you think about attribution and how you… So, talk to me about that, Floyd. Is it simply around the notion of not getting hung up on conversions during the awareness phase or is there more to it than that?

Floyd Blaikie: The first thing that you need in order to properly attribute revenue to paid search is closed loop analytics. And I’m not saying that you can’t do paid search without that. It’s just really hard to fuel a smart bidding strategy, so letting Google, and I tend to talk about Google like it’s a person, so forgive me if that’s weird, but it’s kind of how I think about Google. Letting Google interpret those signals of lead quality, of revenue that can be attributed to paid search, that’s what really fuels a smart bidding strategy, which is a good idea for a lot of folks when you’ve got enough data to go on. So, that’s kind of step one. Can you take actual money that you’ve made and tie it to paid search in some way? 

The next is kind of letting go of the notion that a contact or a lead that has originated from paid search, and then maybe a deal comes out of that, maybe it’s closed-won, you make some money, that that’s kind of an all-or-nothing paid search attribution. And I’ve been working on a case study, as well, with one of our clients, where this is kind of exactly what happened. They were working with another agency that only did Google ads, and I’m not throwing them under the bus. They were obviously very proficient on the ads platform side. It was really that complex buying cycle where they seemed to get really tripped up. So, they were saying anytime someone interacts with an ad, that’s 100% revenue attribution. But if you talk to any salesperson at a manufacturer and tell them that a single click or a single landing page can drive a six-figure deal, they are going to laugh you out of the room. 

So, it just was not really based in reality, so you need to figure out where in your customer journey is paid search making an impact? And then how are you going to take that information and use that to build out an attribution model that really reflects reality? You know, paid search is one touchpoint in a customer journey that might take 6 months, 12 months, 18 months. It’s certainly not going to be doing all of the work, but it’s also not going to be doing none of the work, which is kind of the other option when you look at these built-in attribution models that people tend to use. 

Carman Pirie: And it should be noted it’s not only doing the work at the front end of that process. It may well be coming in and giving an assist three quarters of the way through it. 

Floyd Blaikie: Yeah. That’s absolutely right. In the case study I just mentioned, we did an analysis of how Google ads was impacting the customer journey using all of the data that they had, so we really got a great holistic picture of what parts of the journey ads was important in, and what it did well, and what it didn’t do well. So, we found out it really didn’t do very well at generating leads, which is something that you really want ads to do most of the time. But it was really great at reengaging people, and in fact, people who engaged with an ad were much more likely to become an MQL than people who didn’t, and it took about half the time to close a deal if someone interacted with an ad between the opportunity and the customer stage. 

So, you really need to understand where your ads are moving the needle if you want to be able to properly attribute revenue. In this case, we ended up using a model that gives 22.5% of the credit to interactions at the beginning, middle, and end of the buying journey, and then distributes the rest of the credit equally to all interaction points between that, and we found that that was really reflective of the way ads was working for them. 

Carman Pirie: I mean, I think the one thing I would really caution manufacturers against, and I guess what you’re hearing us say, is don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. If you think ads isn’t working, it’s  just maybe that you’re doing it wrong. And I’m like yeah, because you don’t have an unlimited number of clubs in the bag. There’s only so many things you can do as a B2B manufacturer to predictably drive revenue growth. And I’m always just head shaking. It’s like I always say okay, you’ve decided that paid search isn’t it. Well, now what are you doing other than your trade shows, right? The number of options, it’s not like there’s 40. 

Floyd Blaikie: And you know, options to generate leads might be limited, and the number of leads you can generate is certainly limited, right? We’re talking about fairly narrow prospect pools versus an organization that can sell a $5 widget to anybody. And I think that that puts the pressure on a lot of manufacturing marketers. They might see three or five visitors per day to their paid search landing page and then it’s kind of like, “Oh my God. I have to have this huge conversion rate or I’m wasting this tiny amount of traffic that I’m getting.” And we see a lot of mistakes being made at this point, so they might be bringing in good quality leads, or good quality traffic to an awareness search kind of term, and then they’re hitting them over the head with a contact sales conversion over and over, and nobody wants to do that. Not at that stage. They might be nine months out from being ready to do that, but people tend to jump the gun because the lead flow or the traffic flow is kind of slim compared to a lot of other types of organizations. 

Jeff White: Floyd, are you able to… You know, we’re talking now about the various phases of an awareness and buying journey that somebody might be in. How much of the work that you’re doing is around understanding if someone uses this set of keywords and lands on this page, they’re solution aware, they’re us aware. At that point, we know that if they use that keyword… I don’t know. A branded keyword, like our name and a particular something, because they already learned about it now. Are you able to kind of see that in the research that you do up front, that these are keywords that people use when they still don’t know that we exist, and these are ones that they use when they’re comparing us against somebody else and about to pull the trigger?

Floyd Blaikie: Yeah. It’s part science and part art, that’s for sure. So, we use this customer journey mapping model, and it has 12 different phases of the buying journey, and we really look at the first six or seven because a lot of those are kind of post-purchase and Google ads, depending on your use case, may not be something you use for customer expansion. So, there are some keyword phrases that can be kind of reliably mapped to different phases of that journey. Obviously, if we’re talking about evaluation and selection right before a purchase is made, that’s where we’re looking at how branded keywords are making an impact on revenue. If we’re talking about product awareness then maybe they’ve got branded terms that people are searching for that are owned by the parent brand. At the solution awareness phase, we can reasonably guess based on other data that we have on the site what kinds of terms people are using to arrive at those solutions pages and how that traffic is performing. 

So, you kind of make your most educated guess at different stages, and then you take the feedback that you’re getting from the actual program and kind of use that as a gut check. So, if you’re pretty certain that something is a solution awareness keyword, but you find that that traffic is really not performing well, they’re not continuing to discover your offering, they’re not taking high value actions, that might be a good sign that it’s time to reevaluate where that keyword lands in your customer’s buying journey or whether it does at all. 

Carman Pirie: I’m wondering if you have any guidance around how marketers ought to be thinking about the time from profile setup to when it’s really working well for them. What’s that kind of time horizon look like for refinement, making contact with the market? I understand that it’s never set it and forget it, but any guidance to offer there? 

Floyd Blaikie: Yeah, so part of that is gonna be dependent on the average time it takes to sell whatever it is you sell to somebody. So, one of the things that we do when we’re figuring out how we should build out an attribution model is we might look at average time in different journey stages, average length of the buying journey, and then we know when to look back on performance. So, that part is really dependent on your business. In terms of when you should start feeling really good or feeling really bad about what you’re seeing in ads, things that are happening before people get to your website, so things like impressions, clickthrough rate, those are about 30 days before you can tell whether or not those tend to be working. That’s if you pick a bidding strategy and you stick with it. 

Anytime you introduce new variables into your Google ads program, like changing your bidding strategy, or significantly changing your keyword focus, there’s usually a period of one to two weeks before that really starts working and you can see any feedback from that. But if you’re getting a brand new program in the market, generally you’re gonna see how well your ads are performing within 30 to 60 days, and how well the program is performing as a whole is really gonna depend on your average buying cycle length. 

Carman Pirie: All right. I’m gonna put you on the spot now, Floyd. We’re getting towards the end of the show. I want to know. What are the top two, three, five if you want, dumbest things that you’ve seen manufacturers do with paid search? 

Floyd Blaikie: Okay. Well, one that I know we’ve discussed before is one manufacturer spending… I think it was at least five figures on the name of a Christian rock band. That was pretty bad. We’ve seen, and this was kind of an account organization problem, if you get someone who doesn’t really know how they’re setting up the account, it’s really easy to make mistakes. So, we did see one organization that was accidentally blocking all searches for its own brand term in its branded campaign, so those ads were only searching if somebody misspelled the brand term. That was not great. 

Seen a lot of setups where we’re trying to measure conversion value, right? So, we’re taking like an average deal size, average close rate at different stages, and using that to calculate the value of different kinds of leads like an MQL or SQL. I’ve seen those numbers being used to calculate return on ad spend instead of revenue, so it ends up wildly overinflated, and that can lead to some pretty bad business decisions. 

And the one that I think I see the most often, it’s not that dumb, you know, just as far as dumb Google ads decisions go, but a lot of use of broad match keywords. And if you’re selling pink lifting shoes, then broad match keywords will help you find different searches that are related to your product that maybe you didn’t think about. It’s generally not a great idea in niche B2B because we’re selling really specific products, or really specific surfaces. Not a lot of people are searching for them and when they are, they tend to know what they’re talking about, and broad match keywords will bring in all sorts of wildly unrelated search. 

So, if you are a manufacturing marketer and you are using broad match keywords in your Google ads strategy, I would recommend taking a look at those and seeing what the quality of that traffic is. 

Carman Pirie: Yeah. I didn’t want to be too harsh about saying that they’re dumb mistakes, but I do think it’s a nice… Frankly, it’s a nice way for people listening to say, “Okay, if I see any one of these four things in my Google ads approach, maybe… It may be a bit of…” Not an alarm bell, but maybe at least an indication to take a look a little deeper. 

Jeff White: Potential for a recipe for waste. 

Carman Pirie: Yeah. Well, and I think that is an interesting point and a big contrast that I’ve seen over the years with our approach to paid search versus others, is that our programs have tended to build upon quality traffic, so to throw good money after good money as it were, whereas an awful lot of other approaches seem to be around throwing good money after bad money. So, they’ll start by saying, “We’re gonna have a really broad net, we’re going to put a lot of budget to it and then refine it after we learn something from it.” And rarely have I seen that really work in practice. 

Jeff White: And that is very much the Google playbook, too. I mean, when they call the office and get mad because we’re not just increasing spend for no reason at all other than the Google person told us to, that is… That’s part of the issue. 

Floyd Blaikie: Well, if a Google person calls you, their primary goal is to make money for Google, so that’s always a good thing to keep in mind. And kind of along the same lines, if you’re looking at your recommendations tab in ads, it’s not that Google is being malicious and trying to mislead you, but a lot of those insights are… They’re based on a massive machine learning database that’s mostly B2C products that people can buy in a matter of minutes. So, I would take all of those with a very large grain of salt and make sure that you’re talking to someone, or you are someone who’s really intimately familiar with a really complex buying journey. 

And if you are throwing a bunch of money at ads and deciding to see what works, and kind of double down on that, I would just reiterate that a really important consideration is how long is it going to take you to see success? If it on average takes you 50 days to take a lead from new lead to SQL, and after 30 days you’re looking at your traffic and saying, “Well, none of this is working. We’re throwing our money away.” It’s not grounded in reality. And similar to that, if you’re saying that ads only gets 100% credit for a sale or none at all, it’s just… It’s not reflective of a reality of a B2B sale, and these are things you really need to think about if you’re going to wisely invest in Google ads.

Carman Pirie: Floyd, always a pleasure. It’s been great to chat with you about this. I think the… You know, it’s a critical tool in the bag for B2B manufacturing marketers and I think folks can always get better at paid search, and I really appreciate the insights. 

Floyd Blaikie: Yeah. Thanks so much for having me. There’s a lot to cover on the topic of paid search for B2B manufacturers. I could probably talk about it for six or seven hours. So, appreciate having the opportunity to give some of the highlights.

Jeff White: Phenomenal. Thanks, Floyd.

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